diff --git a/changelog.d/182-face-room-looks.fixed.md b/changelog.d/182-face-room-looks.fixed.md
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..3f44c51a
--- /dev/null
+++ b/changelog.d/182-face-room-looks.fixed.md
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Face-to-face rooms: a Bot now looks the same on every home and in every place (waiting tiles, chat bubbles, Members, sidebar). A Bot with no look of its own sends the look its home generates for it to Bot Social, before it joins, so the other home no longer invents a different one; your own Bot in the waiting dialog uses its roster look right after joining; a friend's Bot speaks in the room with the look its owner gave it. Other people show their initial on a color picked from their name instead of a grey silhouette ([#182](https://github.com/ThinkFlowLab/FlyBot/issues/182)).
diff --git a/core/client.js b/core/client.js
index 9881364c..823ad1b4 100644
--- a/core/client.js
+++ b/core/client.js
@@ -1905,7 +1905,18 @@ function StarIcon({ size = 8 }) {
     (0, import_react.createElement)("path", { d: "M5 .6l1.3 2.8 3 .3-2.3 2 .7 3L5 7.2 2.3 8.7l.7-3L.7 3.7l3-.3z", fill: "#fff" })
   );
 }
-function PersonMark({ size = 22 }) {
+var personInitial = (name) => (Array.from(String(name ?? "").trim())[0] ?? "").toUpperCase();
+var personColor = (name) => defaultColor(`person:${String(name ?? "").trim().toLowerCase()}`);
+function PersonMark({ size = 22, name }) {
+  const initial = personInitial(name);
+  if (initial) {
+    return (0, import_react.createElement)("span", {
+      className: "bt-person-mark bt-person-initial",
+      "data-initial": initial,
+      style: { width: size, height: size, background: inkFill(personColor(name)), fontSize: Math.max(9, Math.round(size * 0.46)) },
+      "aria-hidden": true
+    }, initial);
+  }
   return (0, import_react.createElement)(
     "span",
     { className: "bt-person-mark", style: { width: size, height: size }, "aria-hidden": true },
@@ -3791,6 +3802,7 @@ var CONVERSATION_CSS = `
 .bt-think-caret{display:inline-block;transition:transform .15s;font-size:14px;line-height:1}
 .bt-think[open] .bt-think-caret{transform:rotate(90deg)}
 .bt-person-mark{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;border-radius:50%;background:var(--bt-ink-5,rgba(20,20,20,.08));color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.45))}
+.bt-person-initial{color:#fff;font-weight:600;line-height:1;user-select:none}
 .bt-person-msg .bt-group-name{color:var(--bt-ink-2,rgba(20,20,20,.7))}
 .bt-remote-handle{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;gap:3px;margin-left:6px;font-weight:400;color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.36))}
 .bt-think-text{white-space:pre-wrap;margin-top:6px;padding-left:10px;border-left:2px solid var(--bt-line-2)}
@@ -5261,7 +5273,7 @@ function HeldReply({ held, roster, sessionId, actions, closing, children }) {
   );
 }
 function PersonMessage({ name, texts: texts2, roster, selfId, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-  const lead = (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: name }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark));
+  const lead = (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: name }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark, { name }));
   return (0, import_react8.createElement)(
     "div",
     { className: "bt-group-msg bt-person-msg", "data-person": name },
@@ -5349,17 +5361,18 @@ function GroupMessage({ bot, text, room: room2, roster, actions, msgKey, useUi,
     (0, import_react8.createElement)(Bubbles, { texts: [text], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId: room2?.id, msgKey, useUi, lead })
   );
 }
-function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
+function remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId) {
   const handle = source.remote.handle;
   const member = (roster.remoteBots ?? []).find((bot2) => bot2.handle === handle);
   const chat = (roster.bots ?? []).find((bot2) => bot2.remote?.handle === handle);
+  const seat = faceSeatLook(roster.roomsById?.[sessionId], handle);
   const name = remoteBotTitle({
     displayName: chat?.name ?? member?.name ?? source.senderName ?? handle,
     ownerName: member?.homeName || member?.owner || chat?.remote?.homeName || chat?.remote?.owner,
     handle,
     isChief: member?.isChief ?? chat?.remote?.isChief
   });
-  const bot = chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
+  const bot = seat ? lookBotForRemote({ handle, displayName: name, ...seat }, roster) : chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
     handle,
     displayName: name,
     color: member?.color,
@@ -5368,9 +5381,18 @@ function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
   const carrier = cleanCarrier(chat?.name ?? member?.name);
   return { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId: chat ? currentPart(chat) : void 0 };
 }
+function faceSeatLook(room2, handle) {
+  if (room2?.origin !== "face-to-face" || !handle) return void 0;
+  const seats = (room2.participants ?? []).filter((p) => p?.remote && (p.handle === handle || p.id === handle));
+  const seat = seats.find((p) => p.leftSeq === void 0) ?? seats.at(-1);
+  const look = {};
+  if (typeof seat?.color === "string" && seat.color) look.color = seat.color;
+  if (seat?.avatar && typeof seat.avatar === "object") look.avatar = seat.avatar;
+  return Object.keys(look).length ? look : void 0;
+}
 var cleanCarrier = (value) => typeof value === "string" && value.trim() && !/[@()]/.test(value) ? value.trim() : "";
 function RemoteMessage({ source, text, roster, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster);
+  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId);
   const files = Array.isArray(source.attachments) ? source.attachments : [];
   const person = typeof source.remote.typedBy === "string" ? source.remote.typedBy : "";
   if (person) {
@@ -5384,7 +5406,7 @@ function RemoteMessage({ source, text, roster, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi
         person,
         carrier ? (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-remote-handle" }, t("via {name}", { name: carrier })) : null
       ),
-      (0, import_react8.createElement)(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: person }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark)) }),
+      (0, import_react8.createElement)(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: person }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark, { name: person })) }),
       files.length ? (0, import_react8.createElement)(RemoteFiles, { files, plugin: member?.plugin ?? "social", botId: roster.byId[sessionId]?.id ?? sessionId }) : null
     );
   }
@@ -15896,7 +15918,7 @@ function UserMessageCell({ node, sessionId, useRoster, actions, renderMessageIma
       "data-author-kind": author?.authorKind,
       "data-author-name": author?.name
     },
-    person ? (0, import_react39.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: author.name }, (0, import_react39.createElement)(PersonMark)) : null,
+    person ? (0, import_react39.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: author.name }, (0, import_react39.createElement)(PersonMark, { name: author.name })) : null,
     (0, import_react39.createElement)(
       "div",
       { className: "bt-ustack" },
diff --git a/core/src/client/cells.js b/core/src/client/cells.js
index 0dfa500c..95d23c5f 100644
--- a/core/src/client/cells.js
+++ b/core/src/client/cells.js
@@ -206,7 +206,7 @@ function HeldReply({ held, roster, sessionId, actions, closing, children }) {
 // line in a face-to-face room: the person's name and a person mark, not the Bot's (the host marks
 // the turn, remote-chat.js / turns.js, or posts it as a person line, hooks.js postHuman).
 function PersonMessage({ name, texts, roster, selfId, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-  const lead = h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: name }, h(PersonMark))
+  const lead = h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: name }, h(PersonMark, { name }))
   return h('div', { className: 'bt-group-msg bt-person-msg', 'data-person': name },
     h('span', { className: 'bt-group-name' }, name),
     h(Bubbles, { texts, roster, selfId, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead }))
@@ -288,10 +288,13 @@ function GroupMessage({ bot, text, room, roster, actions, msgKey, useUi, seq })
 // A friend's remote Bot speaking in this chat, laid out like any chat partner: its own
 // avatar (the one its sidebar row shows), its name, a small globe and its @handle. The
 // words are shown as data; the Bot reading them still gets them fenced as untrusted.
-export function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
+export function remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId) {
   const handle = source.remote.handle
   const member = (roster.remoteBots ?? []).find(bot => bot.handle === handle)
   const chat = (roster.bots ?? []).find(bot => bot.remote?.handle === handle)
+  // In a face-to-face room the Bot's seat carries its owner's look (Bot Social members[]): the
+  // bubble draws that look, as the Members panel and the waiting tiles do (#182).
+  const seat = faceSeatLook(roster.roomsById?.[sessionId], handle)
   const name = remoteBotTitle({
     displayName: chat?.name ?? member?.name ?? source.senderName ?? handle,
     ownerName: member?.homeName || member?.owner || chat?.remote?.homeName || chat?.remote?.owner,
@@ -300,7 +303,7 @@ export function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
   })
   // The sidebar's Bot record when there is one; else a synthetic one whose id seeds the
   // same handle-derived look the record would get (characters.js remoteSeed).
-  const bot = chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
+  const bot = seat ? lookBotForRemote({ handle, displayName: name, ...seat }, roster) : chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
     handle, displayName: name, color: member?.color,
     avatar: member?.avatar ?? (member?.shape ? { shape: member.shape } : undefined),
   }, roster)
@@ -310,10 +313,21 @@ export function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
   return { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId: chat ? currentPart(chat) : undefined }
 }
 
+// The look a face room's remote seat holds for this handle (the live seat first), or undefined.
+function faceSeatLook(room, handle) {
+  if (room?.origin !== 'face-to-face' || !handle) return undefined
+  const seats = (room.participants ?? []).filter(p => p?.remote && (p.handle === handle || p.id === handle))
+  const seat = seats.find(p => p.leftSeq === undefined) ?? seats.at(-1)
+  const look = {}
+  if (typeof seat?.color === 'string' && seat.color) look.color = seat.color
+  if (seat?.avatar && typeof seat.avatar === 'object') look.avatar = seat.avatar
+  return Object.keys(look).length ? look : undefined
+}
+
 const cleanCarrier = value => (typeof value === 'string' && value.trim() && !/[@()]/.test(value) ? value.trim() : '')
 
 export function RemoteMessage({ source, text, roster, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster)
+  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId)
   const files = Array.isArray(source.attachments) ? source.attachments : []
   // The friend typed this line themselves (Bot Social attested it; the host set `typedBy`): it is the
   // person's, with their name and a person mark, and the Bot that carried it only named as the route.
@@ -323,7 +337,7 @@ export function RemoteMessage({ source, text, roster, actions, sessionId, msgKey
       // One short header: the person, and the Bot that carried the line only when it is known (#275).
       h('span', { className: 'bt-group-name', title: handle }, person,
         carrier ? h('span', { className: 'bt-remote-handle' }, t('via {name}', { name: carrier })) : null),
-      h(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: person }, h(PersonMark)) }),
+      h(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: person }, h(PersonMark, { name: person })) }),
       files.length ? h(RemoteFiles, { files, plugin: member?.plugin ?? 'social', botId: roster.byId[sessionId]?.id ?? sessionId }) : null)
   }
   const mark = h(BotMark, { bot, size: 22 })
diff --git a/core/src/client/mark.js b/core/src/client/mark.js
index 80b599c5..dc323aad 100644
--- a/core/src/client/mark.js
+++ b/core/src/client/mark.js
@@ -1,5 +1,6 @@
 import { createElement as h, useEffect, useRef, useState } from 'react'
-import { fnv1a, lookOf, lookAvoidingLocals, lookBotForRemote, shapeId, shapeOf, MASK_ID, nextMarkSerial, characterMarkup } from './characters.js'
+import { fnv1a, lookOf, lookAvoidingLocals, lookBotForRemote, shapeId, shapeOf, MASK_ID, nextMarkSerial, characterMarkup, defaultColor } from './characters.js'
+import { inkFill } from './inks.js'
 import { t } from './i18n.js'
 
 export { colorOf, lookOf, lookKey, lookKeys, lookAvoidingLocals, remoteSeed, lookBotForRemote } from './characters.js'
@@ -87,7 +88,20 @@ function StarIcon({ size = 8 }) {
 }
 // The small star in a disc that marks a group admin, beside a name.
 // A person, not a Bot: a friend's own attested line, or another person in a face-to-face room.
-export function PersonMark({ size = 22 }) {
+// With a name it is that person's initial on a color picked from the name, so each person looks
+// the same on every home and two people are told apart (#182); without one, a plain silhouette.
+export const personInitial = name => (Array.from(String(name ?? '').trim())[0] ?? '').toUpperCase()
+export const personColor = name => defaultColor(`person:${String(name ?? '').trim().toLowerCase()}`)
+export function PersonMark({ size = 22, name }) {
+  const initial = personInitial(name)
+  if (initial) {
+    return h('span', {
+      className: 'bt-person-mark bt-person-initial',
+      'data-initial': initial,
+      style: { width: size, height: size, background: inkFill(personColor(name)), fontSize: Math.max(9, Math.round(size * 0.46)) },
+      'aria-hidden': true,
+    }, initial)
+  }
   return h('span', { className: 'bt-person-mark', style: { width: size, height: size }, 'aria-hidden': true },
     h('svg', { width: size * 0.64, height: size * 0.64, viewBox: '0 0 24 24', fill: 'currentColor' },
       h('circle', { cx: 12, cy: 8.5, r: 4.2 }), h('path', { d: 'M3.5 21c0-4.7 3.8-7.6 8.5-7.6s8.5 2.9 8.5 7.6z' })))
diff --git a/core/src/client/styles.js b/core/src/client/styles.js
index cbe3502f..f3a0f0a2 100644
--- a/core/src/client/styles.js
+++ b/core/src/client/styles.js
@@ -821,6 +821,7 @@ export const CONVERSATION_CSS = `
 .bt-think-caret{display:inline-block;transition:transform .15s;font-size:14px;line-height:1}
 .bt-think[open] .bt-think-caret{transform:rotate(90deg)}
 .bt-person-mark{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;border-radius:50%;background:var(--bt-ink-5,rgba(20,20,20,.08));color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.45))}
+.bt-person-initial{color:#fff;font-weight:600;line-height:1;user-select:none}
 .bt-person-msg .bt-group-name{color:var(--bt-ink-2,rgba(20,20,20,.7))}
 .bt-remote-handle{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;gap:3px;margin-left:6px;font-weight:400;color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.36))}
 .bt-think-text{white-space:pre-wrap;margin-top:6px;padding-left:10px;border-left:2px solid var(--bt-line-2)}
diff --git a/core/src/client/user-message.js b/core/src/client/user-message.js
index add348b4..470deb61 100644
--- a/core/src/client/user-message.js
+++ b/core/src/client/user-message.js
@@ -153,7 +153,7 @@ export function UserMessageCell({ node, sessionId, useRoster, actions, renderMes
     'data-author-kind': author?.authorKind,
     'data-author-name': author?.name,
   },
-    person ? h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: author.name }, h(PersonMark)) : null,
+    person ? h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: author.name }, h(PersonMark, { name: author.name })) : null,
     h('div', { className: 'bt-ustack' },
       author && (incoming || multiHuman) ? h('span', { className: 'bt-uauthor' }, author.name, author.ownerName ? h('span', { className: 'bt-chip' }, t('Friend\'s Bot')) : null) : null,
       attachments.length > 0 ? h(Attachments, { attachments, renderMessageImages }) : null,
diff --git a/core/test/face-people.test.js b/core/test/face-people.test.js
index 80031a00..89c7a964 100644
--- a/core/test/face-people.test.js
+++ b/core/test/face-people.test.js
@@ -57,7 +57,9 @@ test('another person\'s face-room line is their own received bubble with name an
   const [person] = find(drawn, node => node.props?.['data-person'] !== undefined)
   assert.ok(person, 'drawn as a person')
   assert.equal(person.props['data-person'], 'SelfA0333')
-  assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 1, 'with an avatar')
+  assert.equal(find(person, node => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(node.props?.className ?? '')).length, 1, 'with an avatar')
+  // Their initial, not a grey silhouette (#182).
+  assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.['data-initial'] === 'S').length, 1)
   assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-group-name' && node.children.includes('SelfA0333')).length, 1)
   assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-bubble').length, 1, 'a received bubble')
   assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-ubody').length, 0, 'not the sent-bubble style')
@@ -105,9 +107,9 @@ test('another home member\'s line shows their person mark and a received surface
   const cell = UserMessageCell({ node, sessionId: 'g1', useRoster: select => select(roster), actions: {} })
   const drawn = expand(cell, ['PersonMark'])
   assert.match(drawn.props.className, /bt-umsg-other/)
-  assert.equal(find(drawn, n => n.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 1)
+  assert.equal(find(drawn, n => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(n.props?.className ?? '')).length, 1)
   const mine = UserMessageCell({ node: { ...node, data: { ...node.data, source: { ...node.data.source, authorId: 'm1' } } }, sessionId: 'g1', useRoster: select => select(roster), actions: {} })
-  assert.equal(find(expand(mine, ['PersonMark']), n => n.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 0, 'my own line has no mark')
+  assert.equal(find(expand(mine, ['PersonMark']), n => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(n.props?.className ?? '')).length, 0, 'my own line has no mark')
   assert.match(USER_MESSAGE_CSS, /\.bt-umsg-other \.bt-ubody\{background:var\(--bt-bubble\);color:var\(--bt-ink\)\}/)
   // The bundle carries the same rule.
   assert.match(readFileSync(new URL('../client.js', import.meta.url), 'utf8'), /\.bt-umsg-other \.bt-ubody\{background:var\(--bt-bubble\)/)
diff --git a/core/test/inbound-ui.test.js b/core/test/inbound-ui.test.js
index 76316afa..a3465f8a 100644
--- a/core/test/inbound-ui.test.js
+++ b/core/test/inbound-ui.test.js
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ import { build } from 'esbuild'
 // The inbound friend conversation's display: trace lines, the thinking row, the remote speaker.
 const { outputFiles } = await build({
   stdin: {
-    contents: "export { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions } from './src/client/text.js'\nexport { remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact } from './src/client/cells.js'\nexport { lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed } from './src/client/characters.js'\nexport { roomAvatarPeople } from './src/client/mark.js'",
+    contents: "export { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions } from './src/client/text.js'\nexport { remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact } from './src/client/cells.js'\nexport { lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed } from './src/client/characters.js'\nexport { roomAvatarPeople, PersonMark } from './src/client/mark.js'",
     resolveDir: fileURLToPath(new URL('..', import.meta.url)),
   },
   bundle: true, format: 'cjs', platform: 'browser', write: false, logLevel: 'silent',
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ runInNewContext(outputFiles[0].text, {
     throw new Error(`Unexpected platform module ${name}`)
   },
 })
-const { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions, remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact, lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed, roomAvatarPeople } = module.exports
+const { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions, remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact, lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed, roomAvatarPeople, PersonMark } = module.exports
 
 test('a reply opening with a delegation trace shows without it', () => {
   assert.equal(stripTrace('Chief → 助手\n\nHi Chief! Good to hear from you.'), 'Hi Chief! Good to hear from you.')
@@ -212,3 +212,44 @@ test("#420: a sender's first line in a Bot's own chat gets one quiet line naming
   const bot = FirstContact({ roster: known, sessionId: 's', source: { remote: { handle: '@helper.selfb1238.home', firstContact: true }, senderName: 'Helper' } })
   assert.equal(text(bot), 'Helper (SelfB1238) is talking to Chief through Bot Social')
 })
+
+test("a face room's remote Bot speaks with its seat's look, the one Members and the waiting tiles draw (#182)", () => {
+  const handle = '@chief-9a.bob.home'
+  const seat = { kind: 'bot', remote: true, id: handle, handle, displayName: 'Chief', ownerName: 'Bob', color: '#2a92fe', avatar: { shape: 'whale' } }
+  const room = { id: 'room-1', origin: 'face-to-face', participants: [seat] }
+  const source = { remote: { handle }, senderName: 'Chief' }
+  const roster = { bots: [], remoteBots: [], roomsById: { 'room-1': room } }
+  const spoke = remoteSpeaker(source, roster, 'room-1')
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).shape, 'whale')
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).color, '#2a92fe')
+  // The Members panel draws the seat through lookBotForRemote: the same look.
+  const members = lookOf(lookBotForRemote(seat, roster))
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).shape, members.shape)
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).color, members.color)
+  // A chat record for the same handle keeps its id (its chat opens from the bubble) but wears the seat's look.
+  const chat = { id: 'session-c', name: 'Chief', color: 'orange', avatar: { shape: 'star' }, remote: { handle } }
+  const withChat = remoteSpeaker(source, { ...roster, bots: [chat] }, 'room-1')
+  assert.equal(withChat.bot.id, 'session-c')
+  assert.equal(withChat.chatId, 'session-c')
+  assert.equal(lookOf(withChat.bot).shape, 'whale')
+  // Outside a face room (or a seat with no look) nothing changes: the chat record as before.
+  assert.equal(remoteSpeaker(source, { ...roster, bots: [chat] }).bot, chat)
+  const bare = { ...room, participants: [{ ...seat, color: undefined, avatar: undefined }] }
+  assert.equal(remoteSpeaker(source, { bots: [chat], remoteBots: [], roomsById: { 'room-1': bare } }, 'room-1').bot, chat)
+})
+
+test("a person's mark is their initial on a color from their name, the same on every home (#182)", () => {
+  const bob = PersonMark({ name: 'Bob', size: 22 })
+  assert.equal(bob.props['data-initial'], 'B')
+  assert.deepEqual(bob.props.children, ['B'])
+  assert.match(bob.props.className, /bt-person-initial/)
+  assert.equal(PersonMark({ name: ' bob ' }).props.style.background, bob.props.style.background)
+  // Two people are told apart by initial or color.
+  const ann = PersonMark({ name: 'Ann' })
+  assert.notEqual(`${ann.props['data-initial']}${ann.props.style.background}`, `${bob.props['data-initial']}${bob.props.style.background}`)
+  assert.equal(PersonMark({ name: '小明' }).props['data-initial'], '小')
+  // No name: the plain silhouette, as before.
+  const plain = PersonMark({})
+  assert.equal(plain.props['data-initial'], undefined)
+  assert.equal(plain.props.className, 'bt-person-mark')
+})
diff --git a/core/test/turn-tail.test.js b/core/test/turn-tail.test.js
index d631cf2b..a6d10b70 100644
--- a/core/test/turn-tail.test.js
+++ b/core/test/turn-tail.test.js
@@ -109,7 +109,7 @@ test('a reply to a line the friend typed themselves is drawn as the person, not
   const drawn = expand(AssistantCell(typed), ['PersonMessage', 'PersonMark', 'Bubbles'])
   const [person] = find(drawn, node => node.props?.['data-person'] !== undefined)
   assert.equal(person.props['data-person'], 'Bob')
-  assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 1)
+  assert.equal(find(drawn, node => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(node.props?.className ?? '')).length, 1)
   assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-group-name' && node.children.includes('Bob')).length, 1)
   assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.type === MarkdownText).length, 1, 'the text is still rendered as markdown')
   // Another turn, or no mark at all: the Bot\'s own bubble.
diff --git a/docs/subsystems/core-client.md b/docs/subsystems/core-client.md
index 89fde1f0..7e80c794 100644
--- a/docs/subsystems/core-client.md
+++ b/docs/subsystems/core-client.md
@@ -116,7 +116,7 @@ The overlay (`flybot-slots.js` `FlyBotApprovals`) is the fallback, not a second
 - Slot `flybot.new-chat.action` (`0003-flybot-api-client`, types in `flybot.d.ts`) is a row on the sidebar **+** new-chat menu, after New group chat. Plugins register `{ id, order, label, hint?, visible?, run }`; the picker looks `label` / `hint` up with `t()` like the neighbouring rows. A string returned from `run` is shown as a toast (`actions.notify`). Social registers Face-to-face room and Add friend; see [plugin-runtime](plugin-runtime.md) and [social](social.md).
 - Sidebar **+** (`mode === 'new'`) opens a short action menu (`data-menu`, no To:/composer) until **New chat** or **New group chat**. That menu does not list individual Bots (Chief and the rest stay behind **New chat**). The Agent row in that FlyBot menu is **Add coding agent**; every row has its own mark (`ChatIcon`, `BotIcon`, `PeopleIcon`, a plugin row's `icon`, drawn through `SlotIcon` behind its own error boundary with the people mark as fallback; a function or memo/forwardRef component, `TerminalIcon`), one verb style (New … / Add …) and one short hint with no closing period (#385: *Message one of your Bots*, *Set up a Bot with its own role*, *Chat with several of your Bots*, *Meet people nearby with a 6-digit number*, *Paste an invite link or code*, *A coding session without a Bot*). A Bot's right-click menu has **Edit Bot** and no separate **Rename Bot** (the name is edited there); **Add DSH Agent** stays the DSH product string on Agent rows elsewhere (#126, #181).
 - Group bubbles, notices, and failed-reply lines never show a raw `<untrusted-message>` wrap or a developer error (`llm-deepseek: no API key`). `remoteMessageText` unwraps stored fences; `failureLabel` maps missing-key / unknown model failures to a short friendly line. Details stay in Settings → Feedback.
-- `GroupReplies` draws a `user` reply with `other: true` (another member's face-room line, #180) as `PersonMessage` (`cells.js`): the person's name, the person mark (`PersonMark` in `mark.js`) and a received `--bt-bubble` bubble, not a centred `bt-event` notice and not the sent `--bt-user` style; own lines keep the right-hand bubble (#229). `other` comes only from the host's person-line post (`hooks.js` `postHuman`), never from text. Another home member's line in a shared group (`UserMessageCell`, author stamped by the host) gets the same person mark and the received surface (`.bt-umsg-other .bt-ubody`).
+- `GroupReplies` draws a `user` reply with `other: true` (another member's face-room line, #180) as `PersonMessage` (`cells.js`): the person's name, the person mark (`PersonMark` in `mark.js`) and a received `--bt-bubble` bubble, not a centred `bt-event` notice and not the sent `--bt-user` style; own lines keep the right-hand bubble (#229). `other` comes only from the host's person-line post (`hooks.js` `postHuman`), never from text. Another home member's line in a shared group (`UserMessageCell`, author stamped by the host) gets the same person mark and the received surface (`.bt-umsg-other .bt-ubody`). `PersonMark({ name })` draws the person's initial on a color picked from the name (`personColor`, the core default-color hash of `person:<name>`), so one person looks the same on every home and two people are told apart; without a name it is the plain silhouette (#182).
 - A face-to-face room lists people first (`faceSeats` / `faceSeatLabel` in `face-seats.js`, re-exported by `group-settings.js`, used by the overview, group settings and the bubble's @ chips): one row per live Bot, `<person> · <Bot>`, with `(you)` on my own (`SelfB (you) · Chief`, `SelfA · Chief`), built from participant fields and the roster, never message text (#229).
 - **One name for a friend's Bot (#384, #305, owner decision 2026-10-19).** `remoteBotTitle` (`shared/remote-label.js`) is the only format: the Bot's name, then its owner in parentheses (`ownerNameOf`: the human owner, `ownerName` / `owner`, before the home's label `homeName`), `Helper (Bob)`, and a friend's Chief the same, `Chief (Bob)` (no `<owner>'s Chief` special case). The chat header, tab title, composer placeholder, row tooltip, approval overlay (`flybot-slots.js` `recipientName`), the `@` rows (a friend's Bot by that name with its handle as the description; the inserted text is unchanged; a friend's Bot is offered once: in a group by its seat, in a Bot's chat by its remote member row, which inserts the handle, not also by its chat row) and in a face room `faceSeatLabel` / `at-menu.js` `faceLabel` (`Chief (Bob)`, my own Bot `Chief (you)`) all use it. `faceAliases` keeps the older labels (`Bob · Chief`, `Chief · Bob's Bot`, `Bob's Chief`) as aliases, so a line typed before the change still calls the same Bot. DSH's own Sessions rows in a face room's `@` menu are filtered in FlyBot (`face-at-filter.js`, below) until DSH has an API for it (#422).
 - A face-to-face room's subtitle (`roomSubtitle` → `faceRoomCount` in `group-settings.js`) names what it counts, `1 person · 1 Bot` / `2 people · 4 Bots`: Bots are the live Bot seats, people the distinct owners among them (me once, a friend by owner name); human seats and Bots that left do not count (#306).
@@ -150,6 +150,6 @@ A discarded `.catch(() => {})` in the client sources either starts with `void` (
 
 `npm test` in `core/` (it also fails when `client.js` is stale).
 - A friend's line that Bot Social attests the friend typed themselves (#227) is drawn as the person: `AssistantCell` looks the turn up in `roster.remoteTypedTurns` (`typedBy` in `src/client/text.js`) and renders `PersonMessage` — the person's name and a person mark (`.bt-person-mark`) — instead of the Bot's `Bubbles`. The name comes from the roster (the authenticated Bot Social `from`), never from message text.
-- The same attested line sent to one of my own Bots outside that friend's chat (a friend's Chief typing to my Helper) arrives as a remote message whose source has `remote.typedBy`; `RemoteMessage` (`cells.js`) then draws it as the person (name, person mark, `via <Bot>`) instead of the friend's Bot avatar and handle. Without `typedBy` it keeps the Bot rendering (#233 follow-up). The `via` name is the carrying Bot's plain name when this home knows that Bot (its chat or `roster.remoteBots`), and is left out when it does not; the model-facing sender label (`X (typed via @…, Bot Social)`) and the handle-derived `· owner's Bot` never reach that header (#275). Settings → Bots offers only the user's own Bots as a Main Bot, in the first-Main-Bot and Add a Main Bot selects (#276).
+- The same attested line sent to one of my own Bots outside that friend's chat (a friend's Chief typing to my Helper) arrives as a remote message whose source has `remote.typedBy`; `RemoteMessage` (`cells.js`) then draws it as the person (name, person mark, `via <Bot>`) instead of the friend's Bot avatar and handle. Without `typedBy` it keeps the Bot rendering (#233 follow-up). In a face-to-face room `remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId)` draws the Bot with its room seat's look (the participant's `color` / `avatar` from Bot Social `members[]`), so the bubble matches the Members panel, the room avatar and the waiting tiles; a chat record for that handle keeps its id and wears the seat's look (#182). The `via` name is the carrying Bot's plain name when this home knows that Bot (its chat or `roster.remoteBots`), and is left out when it does not; the model-facing sender label (`X (typed via @…, Bot Social)`) and the handle-derived `· owner's Bot` never reach that header (#275). Settings → Bots offers only the user's own Bots as a Main Bot, in the first-Main-Bot and Add a Main Bot selects (#276).
 - A friend's line in my Bot's own chat (#420): `friend-lines.js` `friendLineNews` compares each Bot's host stamp `friendLineAt` with the last stamp this browser has shown (`localStorage` `ds-bot:friend-lines`; stamps against stamps, never this browser's clock) and, when a newer one arrives while that chat is not visited, `index.js` marks the Bot unread the way **Mark as Unread** does, so the row shows the blue dot until the chat is opened. A browser with no record yet takes what is there as shown; another member's shared Bot and a friend's Bot chat are skipped. The Main Bot tile shows the same dot (`.bt-tile-unread`; a wait still shows on its avatar). A line whose source has `remote.firstContact` opens with one muted `FirstContact` line (`cells.js`): `<person or friend's Bot> is talking to <Bot> through Bot Social`. Covered by `core/test/friend-lines.test.js` and `core/test/inbound-ui.test.js`.
 - The **NEW** divider (`cells.js` `TurnTailCell` / `TurnProcessCell` / the unread opening) compares turn times with the visit's `seen` (when the chat was last left) and `entered` (when this visit opened). Once the divider has been on screen (`NewMessagePills` in `header.js`, `view.divider === 'in-view'`) and a shown turn begins after the visit opened (`movedOnSince`: a friend's next line, the user's own message; hidden exchange turns do not count), `actions.settleVisit` sets `seen` to `entered` (`settledVisit`) and every divider of the visit goes, as on leaving and coming back. A divider still scrolled out of view, or a chat where nothing new happened, keeps it until the visit ends. Same rule in every chat, including a friend's typed line in the Bot's own chat (#275). Covered by `core/test/turn-tail.test.js`.
diff --git a/docs/subsystems/social.md b/docs/subsystems/social.md
index dfca6665..dedf7b84 100644
--- a/docs/subsystems/social.md
+++ b/docs/subsystems/social.md
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ pins the list. The authority for the list is Bot Social's README and `docs/FACE_
 ### Onboarding, grants, hide, and approval (#136–#140)
 
 - **#136:** A taken `displayName` at onboard retries `Name2` … rather than refusing to start. Your handle is shown in Add friend (#181).
-- **#137:** Owner-chosen Bot avatar/color is sent with MCP `update_bot_profile { bot_id?, display_name?, avatar?, color? }` (REST `PATCH /v1/bots/{id}/profile`) whenever a local Bot's look changes, on startup if not yet synced, and again for every new identity of that Bot (the synced record names the identity: a room-only identity is released after its last face room and the next room registers a new one, #182). `avatar` is a preset id, a single emoji, or `data:image/(png|jpeg|webp);base64` ≤ 64KiB; `color` is `#rrggbb`. Remote look is read from `list_remote_bots` / `list_friends` peer / `list_bot_grants` / face-room `members[]` (`avatar`, `avatar_kind`, `color`, `avatar_updated_at`) and shown in the main sidebar list, group member lists, waiting tiles, the picker, and chat headers. Cache key is `avatar_updated_at`; missing look falls back to the handle-seeded palette. Face-room events carry no look — `members[]` is the source. All fields are optional so an older Bot Social is unchanged.
+- **#137:** Owner-chosen Bot avatar/color is sent with MCP `update_bot_profile { bot_id?, display_name?, avatar?, color? }` (REST `PATCH /v1/bots/{id}/profile`) whenever a local Bot's look changes, on startup if not yet synced, and again for every new identity of that Bot (the synced record names the identity: a room-only identity is released after its last face room and the next room registers a new one, #182). `avatar` is a preset id, a single emoji, or `data:image/(png|jpeg|webp);base64` ≤ 64KiB; `color` is `#rrggbb`. Remote look is read from `list_remote_bots` / `list_friends` peer / `list_bot_grants` / face-room `members[]` (`avatar`, `avatar_kind`, `color`, `avatar_updated_at`) and shown in the main sidebar list, group member lists, waiting tiles, the picker, and chat headers. Cache key is `avatar_updated_at`; missing look falls back to the handle-seeded palette. What is sent is the look the owner's home draws (`shownLook` in `look.js`): a Bot with no stored shape or color gets the id-picked default of core `characters.js` (`defaultShapeOf` / `defaultColorOf`, kept equal to core by a test), so the other home shows that look and not a handle-seeded one; a stored image or emoji is sent as is, image before emoji before shape as `BotMark` draws them. A new identity gets its look before `registerOnce` returns, so a face-room join never shows peers a seeded look first (#182). In the waiting dialog my own Bot is found by its room record (`remote: false`, local id), the Bot list handle, or the `joinedAs` of this join (`mineBots`), and always uses the roster look (#182). Face-room events carry no look — `members[]` is the source. All fields are optional so an older Bot Social is unchanged.
 - **#138 / #161 / #164:** Accepting a Helper invite grants Helper only. The joiner picks a talk-through Bot (not shared). Success copy is `{person} shared {Bot} with you.` Manage access lists `SelfB1935 (@selfb1935.home)`; a label `grantPersonView` already made keeps its display name when `syncOutgoingGrants` reads the normalized grant again (#275), and only a bare handle falls back to the lowercase home. `grantPersonView` / `normalizeGrant` read Bot Social's object-shaped `grantee` (`handle`, `owner_display_name`) and never `String()` it (`[object Object]` → `@objectobject`). Core grants store a canonical `@handle` (never decorated `Chief@…`). Friends' Bots drops reverse-friends of invites this home created (`outgoingPeerHandles`) and room-only remotes, but a handle the joiner explicitly received (`inboundBots[handle]`) always shows (#178): the talk-through grant on the joiner's own Bot names the shared Bot as grantee and must not hide it, nor appear in that Bot's People with access (`isTalkThroughGrant`: grantee in `inboundBots`, and either a relationship this home joined or, for joins from before that record, the home's first relationship with the Bot in `via`). `social/join-invite` records the joined relationship (`settings.joinedRelationships[rid]`), because Bot Social lists a friendship's relationships (`relationship_id` = the first, `relationship_ids` = all) without saying who joined, and both sides of a relationship hold a grant naming the other's Bot: matching any of `relationship_ids` would hide a real share when a Bot shared with us later joins our invite (#383: an already-shared Chief that joined the friend's Helper invite listed the friend twice; a join made before the record, in a second relationship, still shows twice until it is joined again). `social/access` returns **one row per person** (`accessRows`, keyed by the person's home): a row carries `grantIds`, and `social/revoke-grant` with `grantIds` revokes each of them, so two shares of one Bot to one person are one row and one Revoke. A grant to a Bot shared with us in a relationship not recorded as joined (possibly the talk-through side of an older join) keeps a row of its own and is never in another row's `grantIds`, so the person's Revoke cannot break that chat. Every revoke runs in a per-Bot fence: a `syncOutgoingGrants` whose `list_bot_grants` overlapped it does not store that list and resolves `false` (fail closed), and the roster refreshes once after the fence. The joined relationship and the offered Bot are recorded right after `join_invite`, before the owner-approval follow-up. Join copy names the person (`owner_display_name`), not the shared Bot. `social/join-invite` marks the offered Bot inbound **before** its first roster refresh (#228): the grant sync that refresh starts then already sees the talk-through grant as talk-through, so no core grant on the joiner's Bot names the inviter's Bot and the re-filter does not drop the shared Bot until a later refresh (it shows with the success toast). Bot Social's real `join_invite` answer has no `bot` field: `inviter` is the invited Bot itself (a member handle such as `@chief.bob.home`; `joined.bot`, `inviter.bot` and `offered_bot` are the older shapes, with `inviter` at the home). A member-level `inviter` counts as the offered Bot, so it is marked inbound before the refresh and the toast names it (#342; without it #303's awaited sync stored the server's talk-through grant on the joiner's Bot as the joiner sharing back, and the re-filter hid the inviter's Bot and listed the inviter in the joiner's People with access). A talk-through grant is never sharing: the joiner's Bots stay default-deny after a join. A Bot that appears on a roster this home already fetched and is not in `inboundBots` waits for the grant sync before the roster is published (#303; "already fetched" is the `rosterFetched` flag, so an empty roster of a home with no friends yet counts and the first friend's Bot waits too; the very first fetch does not wait, #92, as `registerAll` synced grants at start): the Bot that just joined our invite would otherwise be published for a moment, get a chat record on this home and be marked gone seconds later (the next load opened that dead chat). The awaited sync classifies talk-through grants against the fresh roster (`syncOutgoingGrants({ roster })`), not the previous `remote`, so a refresh that also brings another new Bot cannot store a talk-through grant as a core grant. `syncOutgoingGrants` resolves `false` when any Bot's grants could not be listed; the publish then fails closed: the unseen Bots are withheld from this publish and from the background re-filter (`withheldRemotes`), stay unseen for the next fetch (which syncs again), and appear only after a sync succeeds. Bots already seen and Bots shared with us never wait, so the usual refresh still re-filters in the background. A late grant re-filter of an older roster fetch never overwrites a newer one (fetch counter, not a timestamp). Fetches are numbered when they ask, not when they land (#224): a `list_remote_bots` answer that lands after a newer one (the background refresh `hide-remote` starts, a slow link) is dropped, so it cannot hide a re-shared Bot again; the grant re-filter applies the same answer again and does not count as a second absent fetch toward forgetting a local hide. An open **People with access** re-reads `social/access` every 5 s while visible, and `social/access` syncs only that Bot's grants (`syncOutgoingGrants({ only })`). Bot Social itself still records the talk-through side of the relationship as a grant on the joiner's Bot (`list_bot_grants`); FlyBot filters it on both sides (#161, #178). On upgrade, remotes already on `list_remote_bots` are seeded into `inboundBots` once so reciprocal friends are not dropped — except the Bot that joined our invite and face-room-only remotes. Face-room remotes leave Friends' Bots when the room is left; existing friend handles are not reclassified as room-only.
 - **#139:** **Remove this Bot** asks once, inline in the friend Bot's settings (`Remove Helper? Bob can share it again.` · **Remove** · **Keep**, #230; never the browser `confirm()`), and the friend's **Auto-send** checkbox says what it covers (`Auto-send my Bots' replies to Bob` with a one-line hint, #417) and calls `decline_bot_grant { grant_id, bot_id }` (`DELETE /v1/remote-bots/{grantId}`) so the owner's Manage access drops it. `grant_not_found` is treated as already removed. An older server (404 on the tool/endpoint) falls back to the local hide. Re-joining after a decline may return `regranted: true` on the existing friendship; live access still answers `409 relationship_exists`; a spent invite is `410 invite_unavailable`. Copy stays English (“You're already friends…”, “This invite was already used.”). Re-joining an existing friendship unhides only that invite's Bot/peer home.
 - **#140:** Auto-send defaults off. Accepting a friend request uses that relationship's peer home for Auto-send, not the first roster entry. The owner sees Approve / Reject in the chat, not “Waiting for the owner's approval.” Composer drafts are labelled You.
diff --git a/patches/ds-bot/0003-flybot-api-client.patch b/patches/ds-bot/0003-flybot-api-client.patch
index 0a8bf52c..5d8a8030 100644
--- a/patches/ds-bot/0003-flybot-api-client.patch
+++ b/patches/ds-bot/0003-flybot-api-client.patch
@@ -517,14 +517,14 @@ diff --git a/src/client/cells.js b/src/client/cells.js
 +// line in a face-to-face room: the person's name and a person mark, not the Bot's (the host marks
 +// the turn, remote-chat.js / turns.js, or posts it as a person line, hooks.js postHuman).
 +function PersonMessage({ name, texts, roster, selfId, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-+  const lead = h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: name }, h(PersonMark))
++  const lead = h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: name }, h(PersonMark, { name }))
 +  return h('div', { className: 'bt-group-msg bt-person-msg', 'data-person': name },
 +    h('span', { className: 'bt-group-name' }, name),
 +    h(Bubbles, { texts, roster, selfId, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead }))
  }
  
  function EventLine({ prefix, bots, joiner = t('and'), onOpen, whole = false }) {
-@@ -170,16 +170,157 @@ function EventLine({ prefix, bots, joiner = t('and'), onOpen, whole = false }) {
+@@ -170,16 +170,171 @@ function EventLine({ prefix, bots, joiner = t('and'), onOpen, whole = false }) {
    return h('div', { className: 'bt-event' }, parts)
  }
  
@@ -592,10 +592,13 @@ diff --git a/src/client/cells.js b/src/client/cells.js
 +// A friend's remote Bot speaking in this chat, laid out like any chat partner: its own
 +// avatar (the one its sidebar row shows), its name, a small globe and its @handle. The
 +// words are shown as data; the Bot reading them still gets them fenced as untrusted.
-+export function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
++export function remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId) {
 +  const handle = source.remote.handle
 +  const member = (roster.remoteBots ?? []).find(bot => bot.handle === handle)
 +  const chat = (roster.bots ?? []).find(bot => bot.remote?.handle === handle)
++  // In a face-to-face room the Bot's seat carries its owner's look (Bot Social members[]): the
++  // bubble draws that look, as the Members panel and the waiting tiles do (#182).
++  const seat = faceSeatLook(roster.roomsById?.[sessionId], handle)
 +  const name = remoteBotTitle({
 +    displayName: chat?.name ?? member?.name ?? source.senderName ?? handle,
 +    ownerName: member?.homeName || member?.owner || chat?.remote?.homeName || chat?.remote?.owner,
@@ -604,7 +607,7 @@ diff --git a/src/client/cells.js b/src/client/cells.js
 +  })
 +  // The sidebar's Bot record when there is one; else a synthetic one whose id seeds the
 +  // same handle-derived look the record would get (characters.js remoteSeed).
-+  const bot = chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
++  const bot = seat ? lookBotForRemote({ handle, displayName: name, ...seat }, roster) : chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
 +    handle, displayName: name, color: member?.color,
 +    avatar: member?.avatar ?? (member?.shape ? { shape: member.shape } : undefined),
 +  }, roster)
@@ -614,10 +617,21 @@ diff --git a/src/client/cells.js b/src/client/cells.js
 +  return { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId: chat ? currentPart(chat) : undefined }
 +}
 +
++// The look a face room's remote seat holds for this handle (the live seat first), or undefined.
++function faceSeatLook(room, handle) {
++  if (room?.origin !== 'face-to-face' || !handle) return undefined
++  const seats = (room.participants ?? []).filter(p => p?.remote && (p.handle === handle || p.id === handle))
++  const seat = seats.find(p => p.leftSeq === undefined) ?? seats.at(-1)
++  const look = {}
++  if (typeof seat?.color === 'string' && seat.color) look.color = seat.color
++  if (seat?.avatar && typeof seat.avatar === 'object') look.avatar = seat.avatar
++  return Object.keys(look).length ? look : undefined
++}
++
 +const cleanCarrier = value => (typeof value === 'string' && value.trim() && !/[@()]/.test(value) ? value.trim() : '')
 +
 +export function RemoteMessage({ source, text, roster, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-+  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster)
++  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId)
 +  const files = Array.isArray(source.attachments) ? source.attachments : []
 +  // The friend typed this line themselves (Bot Social attested it; the host set `typedBy`): it is the
 +  // person's, with their name and a person mark, and the Bot that carried it only named as the route.
@@ -627,7 +641,7 @@ diff --git a/src/client/cells.js b/src/client/cells.js
 +      // One short header: the person, and the Bot that carried the line only when it is known (#275).
 +      h('span', { className: 'bt-group-name', title: handle }, person,
 +        carrier ? h('span', { className: 'bt-remote-handle' }, t('via {name}', { name: carrier })) : null),
-+      h(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: person }, h(PersonMark)) }),
++      h(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: person }, h(PersonMark, { name: person })) }),
 +      files.length ? h(RemoteFiles, { files, plugin: member?.plugin ?? 'social', botId: roster.byId[sessionId]?.id ?? sessionId }) : null)
 +  }
 +  const mark = h(BotMark, { bot, size: 22 })
@@ -2247,13 +2261,14 @@ diff --git a/src/client/styles.js b/src/client/styles.js
  .bt-account{flex:none;width:36px;height:36px;border:0;padding:0;background:none;border-radius:50%;cursor:pointer;display:inline-flex}
  .bt-account:hover .bt-you,.bt-account[aria-expanded=true] .bt-you{background:color-mix(in srgb,var(--bt-ink) 9%,var(--bt-sidebar))}
  /* Popover keyframes move translate and scale, which compose with a transform the popover
-@@ -782,6 +782,11 @@ export const CONVERSATION_CSS = `
+@@ -782,6 +782,12 @@ export const CONVERSATION_CSS = `
  .bt-think{font-size:13px;line-height:18px;color:var(--bt-ink-2);margin:2px 0 4px;max-width:min(560px,78%)}
  .bt-think summary{cursor:pointer;list-style:none;display:inline-flex;align-items:center;gap:6px}
  .bt-think summary::-webkit-details-marker{display:none}
 +.bt-think-caret{display:inline-block;transition:transform .15s;font-size:14px;line-height:1}
 +.bt-think[open] .bt-think-caret{transform:rotate(90deg)}
 +.bt-person-mark{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;border-radius:50%;background:var(--bt-ink-5,rgba(20,20,20,.08));color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.45))}
++.bt-person-initial{color:#fff;font-weight:600;line-height:1;user-select:none}
 +.bt-person-msg .bt-group-name{color:var(--bt-ink-2,rgba(20,20,20,.7))}
 +.bt-remote-handle{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;gap:3px;margin-left:6px;font-weight:400;color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.36))}
  .bt-think-text{white-space:pre-wrap;margin-top:6px;padding-left:10px;border-left:2px solid var(--bt-line-2)}
@@ -2427,7 +2442,7 @@ diff --git a/src/client/user-message.js b/src/client/user-message.js
 +    'data-author-kind': author?.authorKind,
 +    'data-author-name': author?.name,
 +  },
-+    person ? h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: author.name }, h(PersonMark)) : null,
++    person ? h('span', { className: 'bt-lead', title: author.name }, h(PersonMark, { name: author.name })) : null,
      h('div', { className: 'bt-ustack' },
 +      author && (incoming || multiHuman) ? h('span', { className: 'bt-uauthor' }, author.name, author.ownerName ? h('span', { className: 'bt-chip' }, t('Friend\'s Bot')) : null) : null,
        attachments.length > 0 ? h(Attachments, { attachments, renderMessageImages }) : null,
@@ -2692,7 +2707,7 @@ diff --git a/test/turn-tail.test.js b/test/turn-tail.test.js
 +  const drawn = expand(AssistantCell(typed), ['PersonMessage', 'PersonMark', 'Bubbles'])
 +  const [person] = find(drawn, node => node.props?.['data-person'] !== undefined)
 +  assert.equal(person.props['data-person'], 'Bob')
-+  assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 1)
++  assert.equal(find(drawn, node => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(node.props?.className ?? '')).length, 1)
 +  assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-group-name' && node.children.includes('Bob')).length, 1)
 +  assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.type === MarkdownText).length, 1, 'the text is still rendered as markdown')
 +  // Another turn, or no mark at all: the Bot\'s own bubble.
diff --git a/patches/ds-bot/0005-social-seams.patch b/patches/ds-bot/0005-social-seams.patch
index ce5d58fe..f46fb854 100644
--- a/patches/ds-bot/0005-social-seams.patch
+++ b/patches/ds-bot/0005-social-seams.patch
@@ -101,10 +101,11 @@ diff --git a/src/client/characters.js b/src/client/characters.js
 diff --git a/src/client/mark.js b/src/client/mark.js
 --- a/src/client/mark.js
 +++ b/src/client/mark.js
-@@ -1,8 +1,8 @@
+@@ -1,8 +1,9 @@
  import { createElement as h, useEffect, useRef, useState } from 'react'
 -import { fnv1a, lookOf, shapeId, shapeOf, MASK_ID, nextMarkSerial, characterMarkup } from './characters.js'
-+import { fnv1a, lookOf, lookAvoidingLocals, lookBotForRemote, shapeId, shapeOf, MASK_ID, nextMarkSerial, characterMarkup } from './characters.js'
++import { fnv1a, lookOf, lookAvoidingLocals, lookBotForRemote, shapeId, shapeOf, MASK_ID, nextMarkSerial, characterMarkup, defaultColor } from './characters.js'
++import { inkFill } from './inks.js'
  import { t } from './i18n.js'
  
 -export { colorOf, lookOf } from './characters.js'
@@ -144,12 +145,25 @@ diff --git a/src/client/mark.js b/src/client/mark.js
    const box = shapeOf(look.shape).size
    return h('span', common, h('svg', { viewBox: `0 0 ${box} ${box}`, dangerouslySetInnerHTML: { __html: characterMarkup(look.shape, look.color).replaceAll(MASK_ID, maskId.current) } }))
  }
-@@ -79,6 +79,13 @@ function StarIcon({ size = 8 }) {
+@@ -79,6 +79,26 @@ function StarIcon({ size = 8 }) {
      h('path', { d: 'M5 .6l1.3 2.8 3 .3-2.3 2 .7 3L5 7.2 2.3 8.7l.7-3L.7 3.7l3-.3z', fill: '#fff' }))
  }
  // The small star in a disc that marks a group admin, beside a name.
 +// A person, not a Bot: a friend's own attested line, or another person in a face-to-face room.
-+export function PersonMark({ size = 22 }) {
++// With a name it is that person's initial on a color picked from the name, so each person looks
++// the same on every home and two people are told apart (#182); without one, a plain silhouette.
++export const personInitial = name => (Array.from(String(name ?? '').trim())[0] ?? '').toUpperCase()
++export const personColor = name => defaultColor(`person:${String(name ?? '').trim().toLowerCase()}`)
++export function PersonMark({ size = 22, name }) {
++  const initial = personInitial(name)
++  if (initial) {
++    return h('span', {
++      className: 'bt-person-mark bt-person-initial',
++      'data-initial': initial,
++      style: { width: size, height: size, background: inkFill(personColor(name)), fontSize: Math.max(9, Math.round(size * 0.46)) },
++      'aria-hidden': true,
++    }, initial)
++  }
 +  return h('span', { className: 'bt-person-mark', style: { width: size, height: size }, 'aria-hidden': true },
 +    h('svg', { width: size * 0.64, height: size * 0.64, viewBox: '0 0 24 24', fill: 'currentColor' },
 +      h('circle', { cx: 12, cy: 8.5, r: 4.2 }), h('path', { d: 'M3.5 21c0-4.7 3.8-7.6 8.5-7.6s8.5 2.9 8.5 7.6z' })))
diff --git a/patches/ds-bot/0008-client-bundle.patch b/patches/ds-bot/0008-client-bundle.patch
index bdbbfe12..ec76c2aa 100644
--- a/patches/ds-bot/0008-client-bundle.patch
+++ b/patches/ds-bot/0008-client-bundle.patch
@@ -938,7 +938,7 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
  var maskBox = (size) => `maskUnits="userSpaceOnUse" x="${-size}" y="${-size}" width="${size * 3}" height="${size * 3}"`;
  var holes = (def, eyes) => `<rect x="${-def.size}" y="${-def.size}" width="${def.size * 3}" height="${def.size * 3}" fill="#fff"/>${eyes}`;
  var MASK_ID = "%MASK%";
-@@ -1242,162 +1242,508 @@ function maskOf(shape) {
+@@ -1242,162 +1242,519 @@ function maskOf(shape) {
  }
  var DEFAULT_MASK = maskOf(FALLBACK_SHAPE);
  
@@ -960,7 +960,6 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 -      value = resolved;
 -      for (const listener of [...listeners2]) listener();
 -    }
--  };
 +// src/client/mark.js
 +var import_react = require("react");
 +var STATES = ["idle", "thinking", "searching", "working", "sending", "orbit", "alert", "done"];
@@ -997,13 +996,7 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +      document.documentElement.removeEventListener("pointerleave", onLeave);
 +    };
 +  }, [enabled]);
- }
--var EMPTY_ROSTER = { revision: -1, mainBotId: null, mainBotIds: [], bots: [], rooms: [], agents: [], exchangeTurns: {}, questions: {}, secrets: [], capabilities: [], capabilityStatuses: {}, secretRequests: {}, models: [], defaultModel: null, modelsKey: null, prefs: {}, byId: {}, roomsById: {}, agentsById: {}, agentOf: {}, ready: false };
--var isMainOf = (roster, id) => id !== void 0 && (roster.mainBotIds ?? []).includes(id);
--function indexRoster(value) {
--  const byId = {};
--  for (const bot of value.bots) {
--    for (const id of [...bot.parts ?? [], bot.sessionId ?? bot.id, bot.id]) byId[id] = bot;
++}
 +var FIDGETS = ["hop", "sway", "stretch", "look"];
 +function BotMark({ bot, look: given, size = 36, state = "idle", live = false, gaze = false, pokeable = false, label }) {
 +  const look = given ?? (bot?.remote ? lookAvoidingLocals(bot) : lookOf(bot));
@@ -1029,24 +1022,23 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +    onAnimationEnd: poked ? (event) => {
 +      if (/^bt-poke/.test(event.animationName)) setPoked(false);
 +    } : void 0
-+  };
+   };
 +  if (look.image) return (0, import_react.createElement)("span", common, (0, import_react.createElement)("img", { className: "bt-mark-img", src: look.image, alt: "", draggable: false }));
 +  if (look.emoji) {
 +    return (0, import_react.createElement)("span", common, (0, import_react.createElement)("span", {
 +      className: "bt-mark-emoji",
 +      style: { fontSize: Math.max(12, Math.round(size * 0.62)), lineHeight: 1 }
 +    }, look.emoji));
-   }
--  const roomsById = {};
--  for (const room2 of value.rooms) roomsById[room2.id] = room2;
--  const agentsById = {};
--  const agentOf = {};
--  for (const agent of value.agents ?? []) {
--    agentsById[agent.id] = agent;
--    for (const sessionId of agent.sessions ?? []) agentOf[sessionId] = agent.id;
++  }
 +  const box = shapeOf(look.shape).size;
 +  return (0, import_react.createElement)("span", common, (0, import_react.createElement)("svg", { viewBox: `0 0 ${box} ${box}`, dangerouslySetInnerHTML: { __html: characterMarkup(look.shape, look.color).replaceAll(MASK_ID, maskId.current) } }));
-+}
+ }
+-var EMPTY_ROSTER = { revision: -1, mainBotId: null, mainBotIds: [], bots: [], rooms: [], agents: [], exchangeTurns: {}, questions: {}, secrets: [], capabilities: [], capabilityStatuses: {}, secretRequests: {}, models: [], defaultModel: null, modelsKey: null, prefs: {}, byId: {}, roomsById: {}, agentsById: {}, agentOf: {}, ready: false };
+-var isMainOf = (roster, id) => id !== void 0 && (roster.mainBotIds ?? []).includes(id);
+-function indexRoster(value) {
+-  const byId = {};
+-  for (const bot of value.bots) {
+-    for (const id of [...bot.parts ?? [], bot.sessionId ?? bot.id, bot.id]) byId[id] = bot;
 +function StarIcon({ size = 8 }) {
 +  return (0, import_react.createElement)(
 +    "svg",
@@ -1054,7 +1046,25 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +    (0, import_react.createElement)("path", { d: "M5 .6l1.3 2.8 3 .3-2.3 2 .7 3L5 7.2 2.3 8.7l.7-3L.7 3.7l3-.3z", fill: "#fff" })
 +  );
 +}
-+function PersonMark({ size = 22 }) {
++var personInitial = (name) => (Array.from(String(name ?? "").trim())[0] ?? "").toUpperCase();
++var personColor = (name) => defaultColor(`person:${String(name ?? "").trim().toLowerCase()}`);
++function PersonMark({ size = 22, name }) {
++  const initial = personInitial(name);
++  if (initial) {
++    return (0, import_react.createElement)("span", {
++      className: "bt-person-mark bt-person-initial",
++      "data-initial": initial,
++      style: { width: size, height: size, background: inkFill(personColor(name)), fontSize: Math.max(9, Math.round(size * 0.46)) },
++      "aria-hidden": true
++    }, initial);
+   }
+-  const roomsById = {};
+-  for (const room2 of value.rooms) roomsById[room2.id] = room2;
+-  const agentsById = {};
+-  const agentOf = {};
+-  for (const agent of value.agents ?? []) {
+-    agentsById[agent.id] = agent;
+-    for (const sessionId of agent.sessions ?? []) agentOf[sessionId] = agent.id;
 +  return (0, import_react.createElement)(
 +    "span",
 +    { className: "bt-person-mark", style: { width: size, height: size }, "aria-hidden": true },
@@ -2162,13 +2172,14 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
  .bt-account{flex:none;width:36px;height:36px;border:0;padding:0;background:none;border-radius:50%;cursor:pointer;display:inline-flex}
  .bt-account:hover .bt-you,.bt-account[aria-expanded=true] .bt-you{background:color-mix(in srgb,var(--bt-ink) 9%,var(--bt-sidebar))}
  /* Popover keyframes move translate and scale, which compose with a transform the popover
-@@ -2599,6 +2599,11 @@ var CONVERSATION_CSS = `
+@@ -2599,6 +2599,12 @@ var CONVERSATION_CSS = `
  .bt-think{font-size:13px;line-height:18px;color:var(--bt-ink-2);margin:2px 0 4px;max-width:min(560px,78%)}
  .bt-think summary{cursor:pointer;list-style:none;display:inline-flex;align-items:center;gap:6px}
  .bt-think summary::-webkit-details-marker{display:none}
 +.bt-think-caret{display:inline-block;transition:transform .15s;font-size:14px;line-height:1}
 +.bt-think[open] .bt-think-caret{transform:rotate(90deg)}
 +.bt-person-mark{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;justify-content:center;border-radius:50%;background:var(--bt-ink-5,rgba(20,20,20,.08));color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.45))}
++.bt-person-initial{color:#fff;font-weight:600;line-height:1;user-select:none}
 +.bt-person-msg .bt-group-name{color:var(--bt-ink-2,rgba(20,20,20,.7))}
 +.bt-remote-handle{display:inline-flex;align-items:center;gap:3px;margin-left:6px;font-weight:400;color:var(--bt-ink-3,rgba(20,20,20,.36))}
  .bt-think-text{white-space:pre-wrap;margin-top:6px;padding-left:10px;border-left:2px solid var(--bt-line-2)}
@@ -3574,7 +3585,7 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
          key: relay.seq,
          prefix: source.role === "stopped" ? t("Stopped by") : source.role === "reply" ? t("Reply from") : t("Message from"),
          bots: [sender],
-@@ -3940,61 +3940,215 @@ function AssistantCell({ node, groupPart, sessionId, openFile, fileMentions, use
+@@ -3940,61 +3940,225 @@ function AssistantCell({ node, groupPart, sessionId, openFile, fileMentions, use
          whole: true
        });
      }),
@@ -3596,7 +3607,7 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +  );
 +}
 +function PersonMessage({ name, texts: texts2, roster, selfId, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-+  const lead = (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: name }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark));
++  const lead = (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: name }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark, { name }));
 +  return (0, import_react8.createElement)(
 +    "div",
 +    { className: "bt-group-msg bt-person-msg", "data-person": name },
@@ -3699,17 +3710,18 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +    (0, import_react8.createElement)(Bubbles, { texts: [text], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId: room2?.id, msgKey, useUi, lead })
 +  );
 +}
-+function remoteSpeaker(source, roster) {
++function remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId) {
 +  const handle = source.remote.handle;
 +  const member = (roster.remoteBots ?? []).find((bot2) => bot2.handle === handle);
 +  const chat = (roster.bots ?? []).find((bot2) => bot2.remote?.handle === handle);
++  const seat = faceSeatLook(roster.roomsById?.[sessionId], handle);
 +  const name = remoteBotTitle({
 +    displayName: chat?.name ?? member?.name ?? source.senderName ?? handle,
 +    ownerName: member?.homeName || member?.owner || chat?.remote?.homeName || chat?.remote?.owner,
 +    handle,
 +    isChief: member?.isChief ?? chat?.remote?.isChief
 +  });
-+  const bot = chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
++  const bot = seat ? lookBotForRemote({ handle, displayName: name, ...seat }, roster) : chat ?? lookBotForRemote({
 +    handle,
 +    displayName: name,
 +    color: member?.color,
@@ -3718,9 +3730,18 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +  const carrier = cleanCarrier(chat?.name ?? member?.name);
 +  return { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId: chat ? currentPart(chat) : void 0 };
 +}
++function faceSeatLook(room2, handle) {
++  if (room2?.origin !== "face-to-face" || !handle) return void 0;
++  const seats = (room2.participants ?? []).filter((p) => p?.remote && (p.handle === handle || p.id === handle));
++  const seat = seats.find((p) => p.leftSeq === void 0) ?? seats.at(-1);
++  const look = {};
++  if (typeof seat?.color === "string" && seat.color) look.color = seat.color;
++  if (seat?.avatar && typeof seat.avatar === "object") look.avatar = seat.avatar;
++  return Object.keys(look).length ? look : void 0;
++}
 +var cleanCarrier = (value) => typeof value === "string" && value.trim() && !/[@()]/.test(value) ? value.trim() : "";
 +function RemoteMessage({ source, text, roster, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi }) {
-+  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster);
++  const { bot, member, name, handle, carrier, chatId } = remoteSpeaker(source, roster, sessionId);
 +  const files = Array.isArray(source.attachments) ? source.attachments : [];
 +  const person = typeof source.remote.typedBy === "string" ? source.remote.typedBy : "";
 +  if (person) {
@@ -3734,7 +3755,7 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +        person,
 +        carrier ? (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-remote-handle" }, t("via {name}", { name: carrier })) : null
 +      ),
-+      (0, import_react8.createElement)(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: person }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark)) }),
++      (0, import_react8.createElement)(Bubbles, { texts: [stripTrace(text)], roster, selfId: bot.id, actions, sessionId, msgKey, useUi, lead: (0, import_react8.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: person }, (0, import_react8.createElement)(PersonMark, { name: person })) }),
 +      files.length ? (0, import_react8.createElement)(RemoteFiles, { files, plugin: member?.plugin ?? "social", botId: roster.byId[sessionId]?.id ?? sessionId }) : null
 +    );
 +  }
@@ -12354,7 +12375,7 @@ diff --git a/client.js b/client.js
 +      "data-author-kind": author?.authorKind,
 +      "data-author-name": author?.name
 +    },
-+    person ? (0, import_react39.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: author.name }, (0, import_react39.createElement)(PersonMark)) : null,
++    person ? (0, import_react39.createElement)("span", { className: "bt-lead", title: author.name }, (0, import_react39.createElement)(PersonMark, { name: author.name })) : null,
 +    (0, import_react39.createElement)(
        "div",
        { className: "bt-ustack" },
diff --git a/patches/ds-bot/files/test/face-people.test.js b/patches/ds-bot/files/test/face-people.test.js
index 80031a00..89c7a964 100644
--- a/patches/ds-bot/files/test/face-people.test.js
+++ b/patches/ds-bot/files/test/face-people.test.js
@@ -57,7 +57,9 @@ test('another person\'s face-room line is their own received bubble with name an
   const [person] = find(drawn, node => node.props?.['data-person'] !== undefined)
   assert.ok(person, 'drawn as a person')
   assert.equal(person.props['data-person'], 'SelfA0333')
-  assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 1, 'with an avatar')
+  assert.equal(find(person, node => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(node.props?.className ?? '')).length, 1, 'with an avatar')
+  // Their initial, not a grey silhouette (#182).
+  assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.['data-initial'] === 'S').length, 1)
   assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-group-name' && node.children.includes('SelfA0333')).length, 1)
   assert.equal(find(person, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-bubble').length, 1, 'a received bubble')
   assert.equal(find(drawn, node => node.props?.className === 'bt-ubody').length, 0, 'not the sent-bubble style')
@@ -105,9 +107,9 @@ test('another home member\'s line shows their person mark and a received surface
   const cell = UserMessageCell({ node, sessionId: 'g1', useRoster: select => select(roster), actions: {} })
   const drawn = expand(cell, ['PersonMark'])
   assert.match(drawn.props.className, /bt-umsg-other/)
-  assert.equal(find(drawn, n => n.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 1)
+  assert.equal(find(drawn, n => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(n.props?.className ?? '')).length, 1)
   const mine = UserMessageCell({ node: { ...node, data: { ...node.data, source: { ...node.data.source, authorId: 'm1' } } }, sessionId: 'g1', useRoster: select => select(roster), actions: {} })
-  assert.equal(find(expand(mine, ['PersonMark']), n => n.props?.className === 'bt-person-mark').length, 0, 'my own line has no mark')
+  assert.equal(find(expand(mine, ['PersonMark']), n => /\bbt-person-mark\b/.test(n.props?.className ?? '')).length, 0, 'my own line has no mark')
   assert.match(USER_MESSAGE_CSS, /\.bt-umsg-other \.bt-ubody\{background:var\(--bt-bubble\);color:var\(--bt-ink\)\}/)
   // The bundle carries the same rule.
   assert.match(readFileSync(new URL('../client.js', import.meta.url), 'utf8'), /\.bt-umsg-other \.bt-ubody\{background:var\(--bt-bubble\)/)
diff --git a/patches/ds-bot/files/test/inbound-ui.test.js b/patches/ds-bot/files/test/inbound-ui.test.js
index 76316afa..a3465f8a 100644
--- a/patches/ds-bot/files/test/inbound-ui.test.js
+++ b/patches/ds-bot/files/test/inbound-ui.test.js
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ import { build } from 'esbuild'
 // The inbound friend conversation's display: trace lines, the thinking row, the remote speaker.
 const { outputFiles } = await build({
   stdin: {
-    contents: "export { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions } from './src/client/text.js'\nexport { remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact } from './src/client/cells.js'\nexport { lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed } from './src/client/characters.js'\nexport { roomAvatarPeople } from './src/client/mark.js'",
+    contents: "export { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions } from './src/client/text.js'\nexport { remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact } from './src/client/cells.js'\nexport { lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed } from './src/client/characters.js'\nexport { roomAvatarPeople, PersonMark } from './src/client/mark.js'",
     resolveDir: fileURLToPath(new URL('..', import.meta.url)),
   },
   bundle: true, format: 'cjs', platform: 'browser', write: false, logLevel: 'silent',
@@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ runInNewContext(outputFiles[0].text, {
     throw new Error(`Unexpected platform module ${name}`)
   },
 })
-const { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions, remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact, lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed, roomAvatarPeople } = module.exports
+const { stripTrace, previewOf, nameMentions, remoteSpeaker, RemoteMessage, FirstContact, lookOf, lookBotForRemote, remoteSeed, roomAvatarPeople, PersonMark } = module.exports
 
 test('a reply opening with a delegation trace shows without it', () => {
   assert.equal(stripTrace('Chief → 助手\n\nHi Chief! Good to hear from you.'), 'Hi Chief! Good to hear from you.')
@@ -212,3 +212,44 @@ test("#420: a sender's first line in a Bot's own chat gets one quiet line naming
   const bot = FirstContact({ roster: known, sessionId: 's', source: { remote: { handle: '@helper.selfb1238.home', firstContact: true }, senderName: 'Helper' } })
   assert.equal(text(bot), 'Helper (SelfB1238) is talking to Chief through Bot Social')
 })
+
+test("a face room's remote Bot speaks with its seat's look, the one Members and the waiting tiles draw (#182)", () => {
+  const handle = '@chief-9a.bob.home'
+  const seat = { kind: 'bot', remote: true, id: handle, handle, displayName: 'Chief', ownerName: 'Bob', color: '#2a92fe', avatar: { shape: 'whale' } }
+  const room = { id: 'room-1', origin: 'face-to-face', participants: [seat] }
+  const source = { remote: { handle }, senderName: 'Chief' }
+  const roster = { bots: [], remoteBots: [], roomsById: { 'room-1': room } }
+  const spoke = remoteSpeaker(source, roster, 'room-1')
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).shape, 'whale')
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).color, '#2a92fe')
+  // The Members panel draws the seat through lookBotForRemote: the same look.
+  const members = lookOf(lookBotForRemote(seat, roster))
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).shape, members.shape)
+  assert.equal(lookOf(spoke.bot).color, members.color)
+  // A chat record for the same handle keeps its id (its chat opens from the bubble) but wears the seat's look.
+  const chat = { id: 'session-c', name: 'Chief', color: 'orange', avatar: { shape: 'star' }, remote: { handle } }
+  const withChat = remoteSpeaker(source, { ...roster, bots: [chat] }, 'room-1')
+  assert.equal(withChat.bot.id, 'session-c')
+  assert.equal(withChat.chatId, 'session-c')
+  assert.equal(lookOf(withChat.bot).shape, 'whale')
+  // Outside a face room (or a seat with no look) nothing changes: the chat record as before.
+  assert.equal(remoteSpeaker(source, { ...roster, bots: [chat] }).bot, chat)
+  const bare = { ...room, participants: [{ ...seat, color: undefined, avatar: undefined }] }
+  assert.equal(remoteSpeaker(source, { bots: [chat], remoteBots: [], roomsById: { 'room-1': bare } }, 'room-1').bot, chat)
+})
+
+test("a person's mark is their initial on a color from their name, the same on every home (#182)", () => {
+  const bob = PersonMark({ name: 'Bob', size: 22 })
+  assert.equal(bob.props['data-initial'], 'B')
+  assert.deepEqual(bob.props.children, ['B'])
+  assert.match(bob.props.className, /bt-person-initial/)
+  assert.equal(PersonMark({ name: ' bob ' }).props.style.background, bob.props.style.background)
+  // Two people are told apart by initial or color.
+  const ann = PersonMark({ name: 'Ann' })
+  assert.notEqual(`${ann.props['data-initial']}${ann.props.style.background}`, `${bob.props['data-initial']}${bob.props.style.background}`)
+  assert.equal(PersonMark({ name: '小明' }).props['data-initial'], '小')
+  // No name: the plain silhouette, as before.
+  const plain = PersonMark({})
+  assert.equal(plain.props['data-initial'], undefined)
+  assert.equal(plain.props.className, 'bt-person-mark')
+})
diff --git a/plugins/social/client.js b/plugins/social/client.js
index 75c2b69c..cc743e43 100644
--- a/plugins/social/client.js
+++ b/plugins/social/client.js
@@ -265,13 +265,20 @@ window.__ModuleLoader__.load({
     // Local picker rows use the team roster record (configured image / shape / color).
     // Waiting-room "mine" matches the same local Bot; a friend's Bot uses its chat
     // record or a handle-seeded remote look, plus any avatar the member payload carries.
-    function faceLook({ roster, remoteChats, bots, local, member } = {}) {
+    // My own Bot is found by its room record (remote false, local id), by the handle the
+    // Bot list knows, or by the handle a join just returned (`mine`: { botId, handle }):
+    // a Bot that got its room-only identity at this join is not in the list yet, and must
+    // not be drawn with a look seeded from that new handle (#182).
+    function faceLook({ roster, remoteChats, bots, local, member, mine: joined } = {}) {
       if (local) {
         const full = rosterBot(roster, local.id)
         return full ? { ...local, ...full } : local
       }
       if (!member) return undefined
-      const mine = (bots ?? []).find(bot => bot.handle && bot.handle === member.handle)
+      const recorded = member.remote === false && member.id ? rosterBot(roster, member.id) : undefined
+      const listed = (bots ?? []).find(bot => bot.handle && bot.handle === member.handle)
+      const justJoined = member.handle ? (joined ?? []).find(item => item?.botId && item.handle === member.handle) : undefined
+      const mine = recorded || listed || (justJoined ? rosterBot(roster, justJoined.botId) || { id: justJoined.botId, name: justJoined.botName || member.displayName } : undefined)
       if (mine) return faceLook({ roster, bots, local: mine })
       const extra = {}
       if (member.color) extra.color = member.color
@@ -635,6 +642,7 @@ window.__ModuleLoader__.load({
         setStatus(null)
         setFailures([])
         const mine = []
+        const joined = []
         const failed = []
         let last
         for (const botId of selected) {
@@ -642,7 +650,10 @@ window.__ModuleLoader__.load({
           try {
             const result = await call('social/face-join', { code: digits, botId })
             last = result
-            if (result?.joinedAs?.handle) mine.push(result.joinedAs.handle)
+            if (result?.joinedAs?.handle) {
+              mine.push(result.joinedAs.handle)
+              joined.push(result.joinedAs)
+            }
           } catch (e) {
             failed.push({ botId, name: bot?.name || 'Bot', text: errorText(e) })
             if (shouldStopJoin(e) && !last) {
@@ -660,7 +671,7 @@ window.__ModuleLoader__.load({
           setBusy(false)
           return
         }
-        setRoom({ ...last, mineHandles: mine, joinCode: last.joinCode || digits })
+        setRoom({ ...last, mineHandles: mine, mineBots: joined, joinCode: last.joinCode || digits })
         setStep('waiting')
         setBusy(false)
         // The main pane (and its title) moves to the new room at once, not the room before it (#191).
@@ -717,7 +728,7 @@ window.__ModuleLoader__.load({
               h('ul', { className: 'fs-tiles fs-wait-roster', 'data-flybot': 'face-wait-roster', 'aria-label': 'Who has joined' },
                 members.map(member => h(FaceTile, {
                   key: member.handle || member.id,
-                  bot: faceLook({ roster, remoteChats, bots, member }),
+                  bot: faceLook({ roster, remoteChats, bots, member, mine: room.mineBots }),
                   member,
                   handle: member.handle,
                   mine: memberIsMine(member, bots, room),
diff --git a/plugins/social/src/look.js b/plugins/social/src/look.js
index 56e24485..d56b7a16 100644
--- a/plugins/social/src/look.js
+++ b/plugins/social/src/look.js
@@ -59,6 +59,7 @@ export function lookFromServer(row = {}) {
   return out
 }
 
+// The order the owner's home draws a stored look in (core mark.js BotMark): image, emoji, shape.
 export function lookToServer(bot = {}) {
   const patch = {}
   const color = hexOfColor(bot.color)
@@ -66,14 +67,52 @@ export function lookToServer(bot = {}) {
   const avatar = bot.avatar && typeof bot.avatar === 'object' ? bot.avatar : {}
   if (typeof avatar.image === 'string' && DATA_IMAGE.test(avatar.image) && avatar.image.length <= AVATAR_MAX) {
     patch.avatar = avatar.image
-  } else if (typeof avatar.shape === 'string' && PRESET.test(avatar.shape)) {
-    patch.avatar = avatar.shape
   } else if (typeof avatar.emoji === 'string' && isEmojiAvatar(avatar.emoji)) {
     patch.avatar = avatar.emoji.trim()
+  } else if (typeof avatar.shape === 'string' && PRESET.test(avatar.shape)) {
+    patch.avatar = avatar.shape
   }
   return patch
 }
 
+// A Bot with no stored shape or color is drawn at home with a look picked from its id
+// (core/src/client/characters.js defaultShape / defaultColor). That generated look is the
+// owner's look too, so it is what Bot Social gets: without it the other home falls back to a
+// look seeded by the handle, and the Bot looks different on each home (#182). Same functions
+// and lists as core; plugins/social/test/social.test.js checks they agree.
+export const DEFAULT_SHAPES = ['star', 'moon', 'gumdrop', 'peanut', 'bunny', 'kitty', 'acorn']
+export const DEFAULT_COLORS = ['red', 'orange', 'yellow', 'green', 'cyan', 'blue', 'violet', 'magenta']
+function fnv1a(text) {
+  let value = 2166136261
+  for (let index = 0; index < text.length; index += 1) value = Math.imul(value ^ text.charCodeAt(index), 16777619)
+  return value >>> 0
+}
+export function defaultColorOf(id) {
+  const t = (fnv1a(String(id)) + 1831565813) | 0
+  let n = Math.imul(t ^ (t >>> 15), 1 | t)
+  n = (n + Math.imul(n ^ (n >>> 7), 61 | n)) ^ n
+  return DEFAULT_COLORS[Math.floor((((n ^ (n >>> 14)) >>> 0) / 4294967296) * DEFAULT_COLORS.length)]
+}
+export function defaultShapeOf(id) {
+  let value = fnv1a(String(id)) | 0
+  value = Math.imul(value ^ (value >>> 16), 73244475)
+  value = Math.imul(value ^ (value >>> 13), 3266489909)
+  return DEFAULT_SHAPES[((value ^ (value >>> 16)) >>> 0) % DEFAULT_SHAPES.length]
+}
+
+// The look the owner's home draws for a local Bot: what it stores, with the id-picked shape
+// and color filling what it does not. A stored image or emoji is left alone.
+export function shownLook(bot = {}) {
+  if (bot?.id === undefined || bot?.id === null || bot.id === '') return bot
+  const avatar = bot.avatar && typeof bot.avatar === 'object' ? bot.avatar : {}
+  const own = lookToServer(bot)
+  return {
+    ...bot,
+    color: own.color ?? defaultColorOf(bot.id),
+    avatar: own.avatar !== undefined ? avatar : { ...avatar, shape: defaultShapeOf(bot.id) },
+  }
+}
+
 export function lookFingerprint(bot) {
   const patch = lookToServer(bot)
   return JSON.stringify({ avatar: patch.avatar ?? null, color: patch.color ?? null })
diff --git a/plugins/social/src/social.js b/plugins/social/src/social.js
index 06c887c8..9bd839d1 100644
--- a/plugins/social/src/social.js
+++ b/plugins/social/src/social.js
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ import { readFile } from 'node:fs/promises'
 import { tmpdir } from 'node:os'
 import { basename, dirname, extname, isAbsolute, join, sep } from 'node:path'
 import { createSocialApi, untrustedText, mapPool, GRANT_CONCURRENCY, grantPersonView, memberHandleOf, personHomeOf } from './mcp-client.js'
-import { lookFromServer, lookToServer, lookFingerprint } from './look.js'
+import { lookFromServer, lookToServer, lookFingerprint, shownLook } from './look.js'
 import { createPresence } from './presence.js'
 import {
   createFaceRoomApi,
@@ -605,7 +605,9 @@ export function createSocial(service, config = {}, { client: given, api: givenAp
       handle: member.handle,
       ...(forFace ? { roomOnly: true } : {}),
     })
-    void syncBotLook(bot).catch(error => warn('look not synced', error))
+    // Before the identity joins anything, so the other home's first members[] already carries
+    // the owner's look and never paints a handle-seeded one first (#182).
+    await syncBotLook(bot).catch(error => warn('look not synced', error))
     return memberOf(bot.id)
   }
   // Existing identities and granted Bots at startup, once ds-bot's team is loaded.
@@ -652,11 +654,13 @@ export function createSocial(service, config = {}, { client: given, api: givenAp
   async function syncBotLook(bot) {
     const member = memberOf(bot?.id)
     if (!member?.bot_id || typeof api.updateBotProfile !== 'function') return
-    const patch = lookToServer(bot)
+    // The look as the owner's home draws it, a generated one included (#182).
+    const look = shownLook(bot)
+    const patch = lookToServer(look)
     // The record names the Bot Social identity it was sent to: a room-only identity is released after
     // its last face room and the next room registers a new one, which has no look until it is sent
     // again (#182). A record from before this (look only) sends once more.
-    const fingerprint = `${member.bot_id}|${lookFingerprint(bot)}`
+    const fingerprint = `${member.bot_id}|${lookFingerprint(look)}`
     const synced = settings.lookSynced?.[bot.id]
     if (synced === fingerprint) return
     const empty = !('avatar' in patch) && !('color' in patch)
diff --git a/plugins/social/test/social.test.js b/plugins/social/test/social.test.js
index 65ea7357..79fcf8b5 100644
--- a/plugins/social/test/social.test.js
+++ b/plugins/social/test/social.test.js
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ import { fakeContext } from './fake-ctx.js'
 import { apply as applySocial, inject, name } from '../index.js'
 import { approvalDraftText, approvalView, createSocial, draftText, homeHandleOf, onboard, onboardHome, nextOnboardDisplayName, mapJoinInviteError, parseInviteInput, inviteLink, registerUnavailable, startSocial, unavailableMessage } from '../src/social.js'
 import { createMcpClient, createSocialApi, untrustedText, mapPool, socialHttpAgent, fetchOptions, grantPersonView, memberHandleOf, personHomeOf, normalizeGrant, isUnknownTool, isGrantNotFound, isMissingEndpoint } from '../src/mcp-client.js'
-import { lookFromServer, lookToServer, lookFingerprint, hexOfColor } from '../src/look.js'
+import { lookFromServer, lookToServer, lookFingerprint, hexOfColor, shownLook, defaultShapeOf, defaultColorOf, DEFAULT_SHAPES as LOOK_DEFAULT_SHAPES, DEFAULT_COLORS as LOOK_DEFAULT_COLORS } from '../src/look.js'
 import { encodeRoomShare } from '../../../core/src/shared/room-share.js'
 import { encodeFaceHuman } from '../src/face-rooms.js'
 import {
@@ -5734,8 +5734,10 @@ test('#137: owner look is sent with update_bot_profile; old servers are skipped'
   await new Promise(resolve => setTimeout(resolve, 40))
   const sent = server.calls.filter(c => c.name === 'update_bot_profile')
   assert.ok(sent.length > probed)
-  assert.equal(sent.at(-1).args.avatar, 'whale')
-  assert.equal(sent.at(-1).args.color, '#4d6bfe')
+  // Each Bot's own call: Writer (no stored look) gets its generated look too (#182).
+  const chief = sent.filter(c => c.args.bot_id === ctx.flybot.scope('social').fields.get('a', 'member')?.bot_id).at(-1)
+  assert.equal(chief.args.avatar, 'whale')
+  assert.equal(chief.args.color, '#4d6bfe')
   assert.ok(JSON.parse(readFileSync(settingsPath, 'utf8')).lookSynced?.a)
 })
 
@@ -7409,3 +7411,84 @@ test('#442: message.not_delivered shows a Not sent line in the owner\'s chat wit
   await social.pollInbox()
   assert.equal(delivered.length, 1)
 })
+
+test('#182: the generated look matches core, so a Bot with no look of its own is sent as its home draws it', async () => {
+  const core = await import('../../../core/src/client/characters.js')
+  assert.deepEqual(LOOK_DEFAULT_SHAPES, core.DEFAULT_SHAPES)
+  assert.deepEqual(LOOK_DEFAULT_COLORS, core.DEFAULT_COLORS)
+  for (const id of ['a', 'b', 'chief', 'writer-2', 'bot_9f3a', '会议助手', ...Array.from({ length: 200 }, (_, n) => `s${n * 7919}`)]) {
+    assert.equal(defaultShapeOf(id), core.defaultShape(id), id)
+    assert.equal(defaultColorOf(id), core.defaultColor(id), id)
+    // What Bot Social gets is what core draws for that Bot.
+    const drawn = core.lookOf({ id })
+    const sent = lookToServer(shownLook({ id, name: 'X' }))
+    assert.equal(sent.avatar, drawn.shape, id)
+    assert.equal(sent.color, hexOfColor(drawn.color), id)
+  }
+  // A stored look wins; only what is missing is filled.
+  assert.deepEqual(lookToServer(shownLook({ id: 'a', color: 'deepseek', avatar: { shape: 'whale' } })), { color: '#4d6bfe', avatar: 'whale' })
+  assert.equal(lookToServer(shownLook({ id: 'a', color: 'green' })).avatar, defaultShapeOf('a'))
+  assert.equal(lookToServer(shownLook({ id: 'a', avatar: { shape: 'whale' } })).color, hexOfColor(defaultColorOf('a')))
+  // An emoji or image is kept as it is (no generated shape over it), and an emoji beats a stray shape,
+  // in the order the home draws them.
+  assert.equal(lookToServer(shownLook({ id: 'a', avatar: { emoji: '🦊' } })).avatar, '🦊')
+  assert.equal(lookToServer({ avatar: { emoji: '🦊', shape: 'star' } }).avatar, '🦊')
+  const data = 'data:image/png;base64,AAAA'
+  assert.equal(lookToServer(shownLook({ id: 'a', avatar: { image: data } })).avatar, data)
+})
+
+test('#182: a Bot with no stored look gets its generated look on Bot Social, before it joins a face room', async (t) => {
+  const { ctx, home, call, stop } = await team()
+  t.after(stop)
+  const server = withFaceRooms(mockServer())
+  server.tools.update_bot_profile = a => ({ bot_id: a.bot_id, avatar: a.avatar ?? null, avatar_kind: 'preset', color: a.color ?? null, avatar_updated_at: '2026-10-20T00:00:00.000Z' })
+  const social = createSocial(ctx.flybot, { server: 'https://s', token: 'owner-token', fetch: server.fetch, inboxPollMs: 0, autoAccept: false, settingsPath: join(home, 'flybot-social-settings.json') }, {
+    client: createMcpClient({ server: 'https://s', token: 'owner-token', fetch: server.fetch }),
+    home: { id: 'h1', handle: '@danyang.home' },
+  })
+  t.after(() => social.dispose())
+  // Writer (`b`) has no identity yet and no stored look: the join registers it room-only.
+  assert.equal(ctx.flybot.bot.get('b').avatar, undefined)
+  const joined = await call('flybot/social/face-join', { code: '123456', botId: 'b' })
+  assert.equal(joined.ok, true, joined.error?.message)
+  const member = ctx.flybot.scope('social').fields.get('b', 'member')
+  assert.ok(member?.bot_id)
+  const names = server.calls.map(c => c.name)
+  const look = server.calls.findIndex(c => c.name === 'update_bot_profile' && c.args.bot_id === member.bot_id)
+  assert.ok(look >= 0, 'the look is sent to the new identity')
+  assert.ok(look < names.indexOf('REST POST /join'), 'and before the join, so the other home never sees a seeded look first')
+  assert.equal(server.calls[look].args.avatar, defaultShapeOf('b'))
+  assert.equal(server.calls[look].args.color, hexOfColor(defaultColorOf('b')))
+})
+
+test('#182: the waiting dialog draws my own Bot with its roster look, also right after a join gave it a new identity', () => {
+  const { walk, pluginOf } = loadSocialClient(async () => ({}))
+  const roster = {
+    bots: [{ id: 'chief', name: 'Chief', color: 'violet', avatar: { shape: 'acorn' } }],
+    byId: { chief: { id: 'chief', name: 'Chief', color: 'violet', avatar: { shape: 'acorn' } } },
+  }
+  // The Bot list was read before the join: Chief had no handle then.
+  const bots = [{ id: 'chief', name: 'Chief' }]
+  const peer = { handle: '@chief-9a.bob.home', displayName: 'Chief', ownerName: 'Bob', color: '#2a92fe', avatar: { shape: 'whale' } }
+  const tiles = (room) => walk(pluginOf(['waiting', bots, ['chief'], '482913', false, null, [], room, 0]).FaceToFaceGroup({ roster, actions: {} }))
+    .filter(n => n.props['data-flybot'] === 'bot-avatar')
+  // The join's answer: Bot Social members[] only (no local id), my handle only in joinedAs.
+  const fresh = tiles({
+    roomId: 'g1', faceRoomId: 'frm_1', status: 'candidate', joinCode: '482913', expiresAt: '2099-01-01T00:00:00.000Z',
+    members: [{ handle: '@chief-x1.danyang.home', displayName: 'Chief', ownerName: 'Danyang', botId: 'bot_x1' }, peer],
+    mineHandles: ['@chief-x1.danyang.home'], mineBots: [{ botId: 'chief', botName: 'Chief', handle: '@chief-x1.danyang.home' }],
+  })
+  assert.equal(fresh[0].props['data-shape'], 'acorn')
+  assert.equal(fresh[0].props['data-color'], 'violet')
+  // The friend's Bot keeps the look its owner gave it.
+  assert.equal(fresh[1].props['data-shape'], 'whale')
+  assert.equal(fresh[1].props['data-color'], '#2a92fe')
+  // A later poll: the hosted room's record (remote false, local id) finds the same Bot.
+  const polled = tiles({
+    roomId: 'g1', faceRoomId: 'frm_1', status: 'candidate', joinCode: '482913', expiresAt: '2099-01-01T00:00:00.000Z',
+    members: [{ id: 'chief', handle: '@chief-x1.danyang.home', displayName: 'Chief', remote: false }, { ...peer, id: peer.handle, remote: true }],
+  })
+  assert.equal(polled[0].props['data-shape'], 'acorn')
+  assert.equal(polled[0].props['data-bot-id'], 'chief')
+  assert.equal(polled[1].props['data-shape'], 'whale')
+})